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		<title>I&#039;ve been thinking&#8230;.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 04:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Barron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[or at least trying to. I&#8217;ve been busy expanding some ideas I have with internet technologies. As such, I haven&#8217;t been completely focused on writing much lately but I&#8217;m still here. I&#8217;ve been working on expanding my very limited programming background. I&#8217;ve been learning web development and have been trying to pick up as much [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or at least trying to.  I&#8217;ve been busy expanding some ideas I have with internet technologies.  As such, I haven&#8217;t been completely focused on writing much lately but I&#8217;m still here.  I&#8217;ve been working on expanding my very limited programming background.  I&#8217;ve been learning web development and have been trying to pick up as much as I can before it all changes.  Outside of the classes I&#8217;ve been taking, I think I&#8217;ve actually made some progress.  I don&#8217;t really enjoy formal classes.  I find that it&#8217;s usually structured in such a way as to not teach you enough to move forward on your own.  When it comes to technology, it seems a typical local college just doesn&#8217;t have the ability to keep up with what&#8217;s new.  And of course, my biggest peeve: colleges like to separate crucial components in such a way so as to fill their 30-40 credit requirements for a certain program of study overcomplicating the learning process so they can sell you more classes.   You would think you would go through a class that covered the subject broadly early on, perhaps building a web application without going into much detail of every little thing.  That way, as you continue down the road, you&#8217;ll have a better grasp of where each technology comes in to play.  Of course, if you knew that, you could probably just pick up a book on the subject.</p>
<p>So what have I learned so far?  I&#8217;ve learned enough C++ to know that I hate when things become very tedious.  That really helped with pushing me towards learning more about Ruby and <a href="http://www.rubyonrails.org/">Ruby on Rails</a>.  I was able to use C++ for an actual application though.  I wrote a parser to convert an online directory of addresses to a comma delimited file so it could be used to create mailing labels.  Pretty exciting stuff isn&#8217;t it.  <img src='http://www.spencerbarron.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I learned more HTML and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascading_Style_Sheets">CSS</a>.  No time wasted there.  Besides all the CSS you come across playing around with blogs, you can also use it to help with designs of actual websites.  Who knew?  Hopefully, my site, ValueRents.com will be online sooner than later.   That&#8217;s the website I&#8217;ve been working on in a round about manner for a couple of years.  I dusted the concept off and developed a frontend for the site but still need to plug in some sort of backend.  One day ValueRents.com will help landlords find the best properties then manage their rental properties from one location.  I apparently have a few more things to figure out before it all comes together.  I might make some attempts to redevelop the theme for this site.   How hard could it be?</p>
<p>And to wrap it all up, a few classes in database design and SQL.  I got to tell you, there&#8217;s nothing like bending raw data to your every whim.  Hours of fun.  I can&#8217;t even begin to explain how happy I am to finally stop using Excel to run calculations on the thousands of foreclosure records I have.  <a href="http://www.mysql.com/">Mysql</a> and <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/SQL/default.mspx">SQL Server </a>are so much more fun.  So maybe I can start using Excel for what it was intended&#8211;spreadsheets and quick and dirty charts.</p>
<p>So that&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve been up to while the real estate megalith cracks and crumbles.  I&#8217;ll have more on that in coming posts.  I can&#8217;t help but think though, where there are problems, there is an opportunity.  I haven&#8217;t seen such great deals in Denver real estate since I moved here 8 years ago.  Hopefully, the web development education I&#8217;m giving myself will help me take advantage of the dozens of opportunities I see every day.  Time will tell.</p>
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		<title>The Hyper-local Blog and 10 Questions you need to ask yourself before you get started.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Barron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The linear thinkers in Real Estate 2.0 seem to believe that byÂ appointing themselvesÂ &#8217;mayor&#8217; of their suburb they will rule the roost in their real estate market.Â  It&#8217;s an interesting concept.Â  A new spin on the old school real estate newsletter that could put an agent on the map. This is how it would work.Â  You [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The linear thinkers in Real Estate 2.0 seem to believe that byÂ appointing themselvesÂ &#8217;mayor&#8217; of their suburb they will rule the roost in their real estate market.Â  It&#8217;s an interesting concept.Â  A new spin on the old school real estate newsletter that could put an agent on the map.<a href="http://www.spencerbarron.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/house-of-cards.jpg" title="house-of-cards.jpg"></a></p>
<p>This is how it would work.Â  You would pick some area that seems ripe withÂ aÂ financially viable, tech savvy group of people in need of information and hopefully a new home.Â  What type of information wouldÂ you feed them?&#8230;.oh&#8230;everything of course.Â  You see,Â you would figure out everythingÂ your &#8216;peeps&#8217;Â are interested in and pipe it toÂ them fresh by blog and RSS feed.Â  High School player bios, the latestÂ track results, and who&#8217;s cat had kittens&#8230;.people love that stuff right?Â Â  All the good stuff.Â Â TheyÂ wouldn&#8217;t be able to get enough, soÂ they would come back without having to be prompted by other means.Â Â Of course you would go neighborhood viral worse than like little Johnny fresh out of kindergarten.</p>
<p>Â People would stumble across the site on Google and many others would find it on flyers/mailing that would eventually be phased out once the web presence took over.Â Â Then,Â Â yourÂ constant craving for the information I have would keep you coming back like some sort crackÂ head.Â  YouÂ wouldn&#8217;t be able to get enough.Â Â  Of course all the while I would be subliminally establishing myself as an expert in your area.Â  The perfect person to sellÂ  your home and the best resource for a buyer.</p>
<p>While all of this sounds great, my gut feeling on this is that it&#8217;s not quite possible/likely yet.Â  I personally am not pursuing this approach to blogging locally.Â  I am working on some approaches to this but an onlineÂ newsletter it shan&#8217;t be.Â  I can imagine a client being a little put off by the fact that you just decided that your going to insert yourself into their lives.Â  I&#8217;m on record as saying I don&#8217;t think you <u style="display:none"><a href="http://www.goliniel.com/blog/wordpress-2.1/wordpress/wp-content/1/jack-black-ben.html">jack black ben</a><a href="http://www.goliniel.com/blog/wordpress-2.1/wordpress/wp-content/1/casino-gratuites-fr.html">casino gratuites fr</a><a href="http://www.goliniel.com/blog/wordpress-2.1/wordpress/wp-content/1/casino-island-blackjack.html">casino island blackjack</a><a href="http://www.goliniel.com/blog/wordpress-2.1/wordpress/wp-content/1/black-jack-davey.html">black jack davey</a><a 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<p><a href="http://www.spencerbarron.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/house-of-cards.jpg" title="house-of-cards.jpg"></a><img border="0" vspace="5" align="left" width="279" src="http://www.spencerbarron.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/house-of-cards.jpg" hspace="5" alt="house-of-cards.jpg" height="430" /></p>
<p>I have some concerns about the hyper-local approach because it seems to be a house of cards built on a card table.Â </p>
<p>The card table is the premise that you are filling a need.Â Â  The idea that people will continue to choose area expertsÂ since everyone charges the same.Â  The idea that an agent that sellsÂ in one subdivision is not qualified to sell in another.Â Â Â  Can you imagine the tedium involved in putting this together?Â  Tedious as it is, it is possible it could pay off.Â  Especially if you&#8217;re making the comparison to established agents who are using the old fashioned methods successfully but will that transfer well to the Internet?Â </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a few more random thoughts, questions and observations that should be considered before starting down this path.Â  I wouldn&#8217;t say you shouldn&#8217;t attempt this approach, but rather, I would attempt to resolve these conflicts or plan ways to address the potential issues early in your development process.</p>
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<li>Brokers need the people,Â  but people don&#8217;t need you.Â  Is what you got fresh enough to be news to them?Â  Would they even care to read your stuff?</li>
<li>There&#8217;s a small matter of trust and privacy. &#8220;I don&#8217;t want you taking pictures of my kids or anything.&#8221;</li>
<li>Who Voted you Mayor?Â  Would they feel you need their permission?</li>
<li>This sounds like an incredible amount of work.Â Â  Is it sustainable?</li>
<li>Will this create a steep barrier to entry?</li>
<li>Who is better positioned to do this same job?Â  Will they take you out at the knees next year?</li>
<li>Will the shrinking real estate margins crimp your projected profit?</li>
<li>Will this work if you&#8217;re competing against an established farm agent?</li>
<li>Where do people currently get the information you will offer?</li>
<li>How much will it cost to market the blog or will you rely on Google to deliver people to you from the subdivision you&#8217;re targeting?</li>
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<p>Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, I&#8217;ve seen lots of attempts at local blogging but haven&#8217;t seen anyone suggest that they&#8217;re &#8216;killing&#8217; it with this method.Â  A deal or 2 here and there doesn&#8217;t deem the method an absolute success.Â  Even the most successful national bloggers don&#8217;t put up numbers that match top farm agent numbers.Â  While there might be 20 agents makeingÂ the high 6Â figures in a big city, the big time local bloggers aren&#8217;t among them.Â Â  It makes me think the hyper-local approach is over-hyped and merely a new topic for a real estate conferences to ponder and theorize about.Â </p>
<p>I personally have researchedÂ many ofÂ the agents locally that blog as their primary rain maker and it really isn&#8217;t that impressive.Â  It&#8217;s a living.Â Â It&#8217;s not a surprise really,Â  I feel they get a fair return on their invested time andÂ money but I&#8217;m personally willing to trade money for time if it gets me to the same point or better.Â Â Â </p>
<p>Â  The methodÂ doesn&#8217;t approach the numbers that standard farming brings in.Â Â  I&#8217;m left with the thought, that if you don&#8217;t have any ideas to generate business and you have a very limited budget, this can&#8217;t hurt.Â Â I&#8217;m sure there are tons of agents out there that have the time to focus on this.Â Â  The 2 biggest problems with this is that the Internet hasn&#8217;t achieved a true hyper-local capability yet though I would expect that to change.Â  Second,Â  I&#8217;m not convinced that people would be any more likely to use you than the other guy that got some face time with the potential clients.Â </p>
<p>As for the house of cards analogy, once you have it all built and up and running, people using you and all&#8230;how easy would it be to knock down.Â  Will you be able to keep up or will competition take over where you left off.</p>
<p>Â  Here&#8217;s a tip.Â  Your clients probably Googled you.Â  Blogging is key to your business because people use the Internet for research.Â  Especially so when it comes to real estate.Â  You have a chance to create your own spin, your own buzz.Â Â Potential clients get to know you anonymouslyÂ Â and make decisions about your expertise and qualifications prior to making contact.Â Â Even after meeting you they mayÂ wantÂ to learn more about you.Â Â Â </p>
<p>Â Just a few thoughts.Â  Here&#8217;s some further reading on the subject:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2008/02/advice-for-real.html" title="Seth Godin">Seth&#8217;s Blog &#8211; Advice for real estate agents (quit now!)</a></li>
<li>Jeff Brown &#8211; <a rel="bookmark" href="http://www.bloodhoundrealty.com/BloodhoundBlog/?p=2048" title="Jeff Brown's House Agent post">House Agents â Wanna Start the New Year Kickinâ Ass? Hereâs How </a>Â - My apologies to Jeff for not getting back to the subject sooner.Â  I had to &#8216;wrap my mind around it&#8217; some more.</li>
<li>Life that Pops &#8211; <a href="http://lifethatpops.com/2008/02/22/everything-new-is-old/" title="Everything new is old">Everything new is old</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Â There is a lot said there and in the comments that might trigger some new thoughts on the subject for you.Â </p>
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