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		<title>Pricing a home in a buyer&#039;s market.</title>
		<link>http://www.spencerbarron.com/2007/10/pricing-a-home-in-a-buyers-market/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Barron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Things sure have changed.  A couple years ago, a broker could miss pricing a home by 5%-10% and the market would rise to the price within a 6 month listing contract.  Of course, if they priced it at value they would receive more than one  offer.   It was one of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things sure have changed.  A couple years ago, a broker could miss pricing a home by 5%-10% and the market would rise to the price within a 6 month listing contract.  Of course, if they priced it at value they would receive more than one  offer.   It was one of those you-really-couldn&#8217;t-screw-it-up markets.  Here&#8217;s the basic ideas that I&#8217;ve found to help guide my pricing and sell homes faster than the market average.</p>
<p><strong>1.  Think like a buyer.</strong>   What do the majority of buyers want?  That&#8217;s the question you need to ask yourself.  Be realistic.  If the house you&#8217;re competing against has a remodeled kitchen and you don&#8217;t, you better have an ace up your sleeve somewhere else in the house. A buyer will buy the best house they find for the money within their price range.  Most buyers look for homes within 25% price range.  If your home isn&#8217;t the best home for the money, don&#8217;t expect it to sell.  You can either improve the house or lower the price.</p>
<p><strong>2.  Comparable home sales have never meant much.</strong>  All that comparable homes sales exist for is to make people (buyers, lenders, etc..) comfortable with the idea that they&#8217;re not paying too much or accepting too low of an offer (sellers).  Right now, the only thing comparable sales might suggest for pricing is the approximate price range a home may sell in and justifying the final sales price.  Actually getting offers for your home is something completely different.</p>
<p><strong>3.  Your current active competition is your best guide.</strong>  Take a look at the competition.  The competition is on the market but hasn&#8217;t sold.  That says a lot.  Theoretically, if your home was exactly the same as the other homes on the market, you can expect similar results.  Pricing above or at the competition won&#8217;t sell the home any faster than the time they&#8217;ve been on the market.  If your home is comparable to the active home that&#8217;s been on the market for 200 days at the price you&#8217;re thinking of listing at,  don&#8217;t waste your time at that price.  It won&#8217;t sell.</p>
<p>So what is your competition?  Some homes in your price range aren&#8217;t competition and some are.  That&#8217;s where experience comes in.  A broker/agent needs to be out looking at the competition if they want to sell the listing.  For me,  I put myself in the mindset of a buyer and rank the competition in my mind based on which one the majority of buyers would find most appealing.  I then price my home to fit in with what was observed.   Make the price spread enough that differences between the property are properly justified in the buyer&#8217;s mind.  Sometimes this lets you actually push the price up and sometimes you&#8217;re a little lower than some comps.  Just remember though, the buyers have probably never saw the comparable sales on the inside so they really don&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p><strong>4.  Brokers/Agents &#8211; Don&#8217;t take an overpriced listing.</strong>  If you can&#8217;t price well against the competition for whatever reason, you may want to think twice about taking the listing.  Sellers have the right to hold out for whatever price they want.  There&#8217;s always the chance somebody who hasn&#8217;t seen the competition would buy the home and pay more than what the majority of buyers would pay.  I try to determine the probability of selling at a price.  I won&#8217;t take a listing with a 50/50 chance of selling.  It&#8217;s up to you as a broker to decide if it&#8217;s going to be a waste of time or not.  The seller knows he can find somebody out there to list their home at their price.  For me,  I&#8217;m running a business, not a public service.</p>
<p>My rule is I take a listing if it&#8217;s within my farm area and not more than 10% higher than what I feel the value is.  This usually depends a lot on how flexible on price I feel the seller will be if the time comes to adjust the price.  It&#8217;s not too strict of a pricing rule just because of the benefits that come from having listings in your farm.  If it&#8217;s outside my farm, I only take the listing within 5% of my target price.  In the Denver area,  MLS statistics suggest you won&#8217;t even get an offer unless you&#8217;re within 5% of value and the average listing that sells original list price is within 10% of the final sales price.   Incidentally,  there is still a spread of about 20% between the average active list price and the average sold price for the current month.</p>
<p>Pricing within the 5% rule helps me sell most homes in about 1/3 the time of the current market average.  If my sellers want to &#8216;test&#8217; the market at a slightly higher price,  I used to take the listings, but I&#8217;m getting away from that.  It&#8217;s hurts to spend thousands on listings that don&#8217;t sell.  I find that most sellers always think of the price drop as money lost.  In reality, their home was never worth the higher price.  But in the end, you always seem to hit a wall on price that&#8217;s above what the home is worth even though they might have been agreeable to pricing it correctly if you helped them to be realistic upfront.  In the end it&#8217;s rarely worth taking an overpriced listing.</p>
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		<title>60 Minutes Redfin.com Story &#8211; Is it a fairytale or a narrative?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 17:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Barron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been ruminating on the 60 Minutes story thinking about how much of the story was wishful thinking and how much was fact.
I wonder how much Redfin.com just saved in advertising by getting their side of the story pitched on 60 Minutes.  I think the casual observer would have been quite taken in by [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="navigation" align="left">I&#8217;ve been ruminating on the 60 Minutes story thinking about how much of the story was wishful thinking and how much was fact.</p>
<p>I wonder how much <a href="http://www.redfin.com" target="_blank" title="Redfin.com">Redfin.com </a>just saved in advertising by getting their side of the <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/11/60minutes/main2790865.shtml" title="60 Minutes - Redfin.com Story">story pitched on 60 Minutes</a>.  I think the casual observer would have been quite taken in by the story.  It was a strong example of yellow journalism at its best for students out there.  You start with the premise,  &#8220;Realtors make too much and do very little,&#8221; and build that into a story.   It&#8217;s a shame that it was so one-sided.  I agree that the real estate industry as a whole needs to be disrupted.  Many agents do very little for the money they make.  But there are other agents that earned every penny of their 6%-7% commissions.  Their clients would swear by it.  Change is coming to the industry, but it won&#8217;t be Redfin that makes it through the change.  To all you VC&#8217;s out there that are all caught up in the hype of Redfin, you should take a break.  The business is more expensive than you think.  There is much more overhead than you are observing.  One in every 86 adults is a Realtor.  That&#8217;s a lot of competition.  While everyone agrees that the Internet is changing how real estate is transacted,  the Internet is not the method most people use to choose their agents.  Whatever the case, the 60 Minutes story was misleading to consumers.<br />
Here&#8217;s my observations on the story.<br />
1.  <strong>Does Redfin deserve a commission at all? </strong>  They don&#8217;t do enough to earn 33% of the commission.  The money they&#8217;re rebating to the buyer is the buyer&#8217;s money.  Why not just knock it off the price?  Do they even show the home to the buyer or do they encourage the buyer to meet the listing agent at the home?  After the buyers have taken advantage of the listing agent, why should they involve Redfin?  They aren&#8217;t knowledgable local experts; they&#8217;re just filling out forms.  I don&#8217;t see how working with Redfin.com has any value to the consumer.  Buyers are the only ones showing up with any money.  They ultimately are the ones paying for the broker&#8217;s services.  If you&#8217;re paying anything for a buyer&#8217;s agent, I hope you&#8217;re getting at least a level of service that can inform you what the true value of a property is.  I&#8217;m not talking about referencing local sales and checking the Zestimate.  I&#8217;m talking about the art of pricing.<br />
2. <strong>Realtor commissions are not fixed</strong> at 6% as Leslie Stahl would have you believe.  They vary all over the country.  There are a wide range of service options currently available to the consumer.  My brokerage model is based on the idea that if you offer full service for less, you&#8217;ll spend less money on acquiring more business, because you&#8217;ll benefit from the referrals of your past clients.  We actually do the whole listing side of the sale for 1% of the sales price.  That includes all the things traditional brokers would be expected to do.  There are other models that attempt to offer less service in various forms but I have yet to see one successful, profitable business model.  If it was out there, I&#8217;d be in it.  <a href="http://www.hqhomes.com" target="_blank" title="HQHomes ">HQHomes</a> of Denver is one of the few profitable discount models in Denver.  When the Help-U-Sell&#8217;s and Assist to Sell&#8217;s are failing, we are still growing.  It&#8217;s not perfect yet but there&#8217;s no discounting service.  The agents make money, we save our clients money and we do everything you would expect of a full service company.  At the least, my clients can be assured that I handle more sides of a transaction a year than 95% of the brokers in Denver.  The consumer can have expertise and save money without having to lower their expectations.<br />
3.  <strong>I cringe at the term &#8220;discounters&#8221;.</strong>  It&#8217;s an offensive label.  I&#8217;m a full service broker.  I might not hold a costume-themed open house with men on stilts, party favors and clowns but I do hold open houses if I think it could help sell the home.  How about calling us &#8220;industry pioneers&#8221;?<br />
4. <strong>Reduced levels of service are currently available to the consumer.</strong>  But that doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s a good idea.   Unfortunately, in any market buyers and sellers should be working with agents that have a firm grasp of value.  That&#8217;s where most of these limited services fall apart.  The agents at a place like Redfin don&#8217;t know anything about the local markets.  <a href="http://www.spencerbarron.com/archives/46" title="Most Denver homes are overpriced">Most homes in Denver are overpriced by as much as 20%.</a>  Will Redfin be able to show their clients when a home is overpriced and when they&#8217;re not?  If they tried, how could they possibly be right without actually going there?</p>
<p>5. <strong>The value of service will vary depending on the type and quality of service provided.</strong>  On a million dollar home, paying $60,000 for commissions might seem like a lot but really that depends.  If your million dollar home would only fetch $850,000 as a FSBO (limited exposure),  $900,000 with a limited service listing agent and you could possibly get $1.1 million for it listed with a full service agent.  At which level of service did the agent earn his $60,000?  That being said, as a buyer&#8217;s agent on the same million dollar home, if I let you write an offer for a home $1,050,000 when you could easily have got the house for $950,000 with an agent that actually knew the market, did I earn my $10,000? (33% of a 3% commission).  If all I did was show you a picture on my website, you filled out an online form for the offer, I made a phone call and faxed over your offer,  did I even earn $10,000?  <strong>Just because you save money doesn&#8217;t mean you get a good value</strong>.  You can&#8217;t automatically assume that saving money means you got a good deal.<br />
To those that have read this, here&#8217;s what some other good folks have to say.</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.bloodhoundrealty.com/BloodhoundBlog/?p=1422" rel="bookmark">60 Minutes’ Redfin.com story delivers 400 hits in 60 minutes flat . . . </a>  Bloodhound Blog</li>
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<p class="entrytitle"><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/13/redfin-on-60-minutes-tonight/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Redfin On 60 Minutes Tonight - Real Estate Market Disruption">Redfin On 60 Minutes Tonight &#8211; Real Estate Market Disruption</a>  TechCrunch.com</p>
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<p class="entrytitle"><a href="http://blog.redfin.com/" target="_blank" title="Redfin Blog">Redfin&#8217;s Corporate Blog</a></p>
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<p class="entrytitle">Here are some similar articles where I discuss this topic:</p>
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<p class="entrytitle"><a href="http://www.spencerbarron.com/archives/69" title="Why I can't justify high commissions">Why I can&#8217;t justify high commissions</a></p>
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<p class="entrytitle"><a href="http://www.spencerbarron.com/archives/63" title="What's in a CMA">What should be in a market analysis</a></p>
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<p class="entrytitle"><a href="http://www.spencerbarron.com/archives/23" title="Making your first offer">Think before making your first offer</a></p>
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		<title>Took a short break&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 04:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Barron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My apologies to those that may enjoy my take on real estate and Denver.  I took a short break.  What started as writer&#8217;s block turned into just not having any time.  If I&#8217;ve learned anything about maintaining a blog, it would be that it&#8217;s harder than it looks.  It&#8217;s difficult to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My apologies to those that may enjoy my take on real estate and Denver.  I took a short break.  What started as writer&#8217;s block turned into just not having any time.  If I&#8217;ve learned anything about maintaining a blog, it would be that it&#8217;s harder than it looks.  It&#8217;s difficult to maintain a high quality of content while maintaining volume.</p>
<p>I will be instituting a few new practices and features to this site over the next 6 months so check back to see what develops.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be keeping my posts as short and to the point as possible.  For longer explanations, I&#8217;m sure there are lots of other great blogs that use big words and lengthy long-winded arguments to communicate simple ideas.  If possible, I&#8217;ll link you through to them.</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m too short, start a discussion.  I&#8217;ll certainly discuss.</p>
<p>Hope everyone is having as great a year as I am.</p>
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		<title>January Home Sales Up &#8211; Is the Denver Market in a mini-upswing?</title>
		<link>http://www.spencerbarron.com/2007/02/january-home-sales-up-is-the-denver-market-in-a-mini-upswing/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 07:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Barron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I think many Realtors in Denver probably already knew this, it seems buyers are coming out of the woodwork.
Denver Metrolist is reporting good news for buyers and sellers alike.   While days on market have gone up significantly from last year, 14% over last year to 117 days, so did &#8217;solds&#8217;.  Sold [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I think many Realtors in Denver probably already knew this, it seems buyers are coming out of the woodwork.</p>
<p>Denver Metrolist is reporting good news for buyers and sellers alike.   While days on market have gone up significantly from last year, 14% over last year to 117 days, so did &#8217;solds&#8217;.  Sold listings for January were up almost 25% since this time last year. (statistics from Denver Metrolist for the month of January 2007)  Good news for buyers? Well,  prices were down a touch as well compared to last year at this time.</p>
<p>I like to think that activity in January is a harbinger of what the first half of the year will be like.  It&#8217;s been a busy couple of weeks for me.  I&#8217;d imagine that many agents around Denver are breathing a sigh of relief if the same thing is happening to them.    It&#8217;s almost as if the market was artificially supressed by poor media coverage.  I haven&#8217;t heard anything horribly bad in weeks.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that all is warm and fuzzy.  January&#8217;s DSNews (Default Servicing magazine) reports that Colorado&#8217;s foreclosure rate is 2.7 times the national average.  Look out Douglas and Weld, you have a new contender for top foreclosure county.  Adams County now tops the list with 1 foreclosure for every 132 households.  But the truth is, this is actually an improvement from where it&#8217;s been.</p>
<p><strong>My Real Estate Market predictions:</strong></p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t take a rocket scientist to realize that the job market and commercial office markets are healthier than they&#8217;ve been in years.   Real estate will always be based on what&#8217;s going on locally.  In particular, the job market has more to do with how the real estate market will do next year than interest rates will ever have.  More jobs will mean fewer defaults on loans.  And higher incomes mean higher home values.  If buyers can afford to buy a limited supply of quality homes in desirable areas, prices will go up, and vice versa.  So if there are jobs in Denver, I&#8217;d imagine home prices will remain stable or even show modest growth.  Look for areas like Sunnyside, Berkeley, Bonnie Brae, DU, Cherry Creek, Cherry Hills Village, Greenwood Village, Englewood and Washington Park to see continued growth (1-3% this year),  while areas like Highlands Ranch, Green Valley Ranch (Denver), Park Hill (Denver), Northglenn, Thornton and Southwest Denver will show some declines as high inventory and foreclosures put pressure on sellers to drop prices (2-5%).</p>
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		<title>Why you won&#039;t get feedback on all showings</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 20:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Barron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. Most agents won&#8217;t respond to the email request for feedback because they are just too lazy.
2. Most agents won&#8217;t respond to any messages that are left on their phones for feedback because they just don&#8217;t care. 
3. Most agents show more than one property in a day. So if they don&#8217;t respond in the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font size="2">1. Most agents won&#8217;t respond to the email request for feedback because they are just too lazy.</font></p>
<p><font size="2">2. Most agents won&#8217;t respond to any messages that are left on their phones for feedback because they just don&#8217;t care.</font><font size="2"> </font></p>
<p><font size="2">3. Most agents show more than one property in a day. So if they don&#8217;t respond in the first day or two, they probably don&#8217;t even remember any feedback.</font><font size="2"> </font></p>
<p><font size="2" /><font size="2">4. If a buyer&#8217;s agent has an interested client, it&#8217;s not in his client&#8217;s best interest to give feedback, as it could compromise a future negotiation.</font></p>
<p><font size="2">5. Most feedback will only be negative, since if they really like the home it would fall under number 4. So only considerate agents with some free time and an uninterested client will give feedback when there was something definite their client did NOT like.</font></p>
<p><font size="2"><strong><em>When you don&#8217;t get a call back you can assume:</em></strong></font></p>
<p><font size="2">1. They may be interested but are not certain about writing an offer at this time and don&#8217;t want to tip their &#8216;hand&#8217;.</font></p>
<p><font size="2">2. The property didn&#8217;t make any impression on them, or they just don&#8217;t remember it among the other homes that were shown.</font></p>
<p><font size="2">3. The agent that showed the home is incredibly lazy and inconsiderate.</font></p>
<p><font size="2">Less than 1 in 3 agents will actually give feedback.  Any agent that claims they get feedback for every showing is either lying to you or making it up. I make a reasonable attempt to get feedback, but as a rule, I won&#8217;t hound agents to get me feedback unless it&#8217;s the very first showing.  It just makes you look desperate to agents that may actually have a buyer.  Besides, if you did your homework, there really isn&#8217;t a whole lot you can learn from feedback except things to support a future price drop. </font></p>
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		<title>The Top Ten Most Common Complaints about Homes for Sale &#8211; Useful Feedback</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 07:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Barron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Selling a home has gotten a lot tougher over the last two years. The Denver real estate market has really started to slow down. Buyers are gaining the upper hand in negotiations because there are many more homes to choose from. This means home sellers are going to have to pay attention to the feedback [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Selling a home has gotten a lot tougher over the last two years. The Denver real estate market has really started to slow down. Buyers are gaining the upper hand in negotiations because there are many more homes to choose from. This means home sellers are going to have to pay attention to the feedback they get from their agents and from the public and make changes that will help them sell the home. I hear all sorts of things when I start calling for feedback. It&#8217;s amazing how useless most of it is. I mean, it&#8217;s rarely anything the seller and I haven&#8217;t realized but I push on waiting, building support for whatever course of action will eventually need to happen. I&#8217;ve come to characterize feedback in three types.</p>
<p><strong>The first type of &#8216;feedback&#8217;</strong><strong> are things the homeowner already knows but the homeowner has refused to address. </strong>These are usually obvious and just a huge waste of time. These are things that should be addressed prior to sale. Either fix the problems or drop the price until the home you&#8217;re trying to sell is similar to the homes in the same price range, the homes your potential buyers are looking at. The huge waste of time comes in because these are things that are so obvious that I pointed them out as I walked through at the listing appointment. How many wasted opportunities to sell will you need before you take my advice and make changes?</p>
<p>1. <em><strong>Didn&#8217;t like the finishes</strong></em>. Paint colors, carpet, light fixtures, etc&#8230; This is pretty common and highly changeable. The problem is most sellers think that if the buyer doesn&#8217;t like it, they can change it. If you&#8217;re getting lots of showings and no offers, this could be the culprit. Usually it&#8217;s cheaper to make the changes than try to drop your price enough to get an offer. It&#8217;s the whole $2 will get you $10.</p>
<p>2. <strong><em>Home needs updating.</em></strong> If you haven&#8217;t remodeled recently and don&#8217;t have the latest and greatest finishes, you won&#8217;t compete anywhere near the same price of similar homes that do. Buyers usually don&#8217;t want to do any work. If your competition is nicer, don&#8217;t expect they&#8217;ll pick your home unless there is a significant price difference. Your only cheap options are staging the property well and making sure that it&#8217;s clean and bright for showings. Some paint usually goes a long way to help here too.</p>
<p>3. <strong><em>Home needs serious work</em></strong> &#8211; You can&#8217;t tell me the seller and the listing agent don&#8217;t already know this. Investors are your most likely buyer here and don&#8217;t expect to get more than 80% of what your home could be worth if it was fixed. Most savvy investors are looking for homes at about 70% of what they could sell it for fixed up.</p>
<p>4. <em><strong>Horrible smells</strong></em> &#8211; Many homeowners have an idea that their home smells but don&#8217;t know what to do about it. Others like to pretend they can&#8217;t smell anything. I know they know it smells though because they always ask. People whose homes don&#8217;t smell never ask visitors when they come in if they could smell the _____ (insert animal of your choice). People whose homes smell, usually do ask that silly question. Of what value is giving the feedback&#8230;&#8221;Yes, it&#8217;s horrible.&#8221; when the seller isn&#8217;t going to do anything about it. If it smells bad, don&#8217;t expect to get a fair price for your home. I&#8217;ve seen this knock $20,000 of the value of homes. Animal smells are the worst but food smells can be overpowering too. Suffer from hyposmia? Get professional help.</p>
<p><strong><em>5. Home is overpriced &#8211; </em></strong>If you&#8217;re a seller, don&#8217;t expect helpful feedback from buyers when it comes to price. This is the most inaccurate feedback you will get. Most buyer&#8217;s agents will likely tell you it&#8217;s overpriced regardless of what the comparable sales are. Usually, the buyer&#8217;s agent has no idea about the home&#8217;s value; they only know if their clients liked it or not. Even if they liked it, they might say it&#8217;s overpriced. Who knows for sure? The only thing that is certain, the buyers didn&#8217;t want to pay the list price for the home. If all buyers that see your place would gladly pay your listing price, you&#8217;re probably listed too low. From an agent&#8217;s perspective, feedback on price is only useful for helping the seller feel comfortable about a price drop, unfortunate but often necessary. I , personally, don&#8217;t go by feedback; I start by looking at the competition and seeing how we compare. This dictates more than anything what your home should be listed at.</p>
<p><strong>The second type of feedback we get are things that the home owner already knows about but can do very little to fix.</strong></p>
<p>6. <strong><em>Poor location</em></strong> &#8211; Funny thing is everyone talks about location, location, location as being the most important factor in real estate. But to a seller, he can&#8217;t do anything about the location when it&#8217;s bad. You can expect that location alone will turn off many potential buyers even before they come in. Repeated canceled showings? They probably discovered the problem before they even went in. A seller can only try to divert attention to the property&#8217;s strong points while attempting to downplay the problems with the location. Backing up to a busy street? Play soft music inside and considering adding a water fountain outside. If you&#8217;ve got worse problems than road noise, you&#8217;re probably going to need to address it in the price of the home. These problems may include close proximity to factories, crack homes, shanty towns, tent cities, train stations, gang hangouts, prisons, public housing, or Rocky Flats; don&#8217;t act like your home is anything like the home that backs to a &#8216;green belt&#8217; or fronts on Washington Park.</p>
<p>7. <strong><em>The home has a funky layout</em></strong> &#8211; Staging may help but If your home has a hodgepodge of additions over the last 80 years it&#8217;s going to effect the price.</p>
<p>8. <strong><em>Bad Neighbors</em></strong> &#8211; There&#8217;s very little you can do to get the neighbors to &#8216;get with the program&#8217;. I&#8217;ve seen homes where the neighbors had a junk yard in their back yard, rotted out cars and all. As you might guess, this is bad for the neighborhood. I once got a call from an agent that noticed there was an electric fence, the type used for horses, along the top of my client&#8217;s fence. The neighbor needed to keep the pit bulls from jumping the fence and getting into everyone else&#8217;s yard. Do the only thing you can do, file a complaint with the proper government agency and hope nobody finds out it was you.</p>
<p><strong>Now for actual valuable feedback.</strong></p>
<p><em>9. <strong>Doesn&#8217;t show well</strong></em> &#8211; This can mean anything really, but if you have dogs barking at the buyers as they walk through the home or they are stepping over underwear, I want to know. Homeowner doesn&#8217;t step out for the showing, laundry is everywhere and bread crumbs are all over the counters? I want to know how the seller is doing at keeping the place show-worthy. Trust me, these are things the seller doesn&#8217;t want to hear. They are at the root cause of why homes don&#8217;t sell even after they really are priced appropriately for what they are.<br />
10. <em><strong>Home doesn&#8217;t show at all, the homeowner </strong></em><em><strong>denied showing</strong></em> &#8211; As an agent, nothing is more frustrating than when you&#8217;re spending money to market a property and the homeowner turns down a showing.<br />
In most cases, I know exactly why something isn&#8217;t selling. Feedback is an exercise to help educate the seller and build the seller&#8217;s confidence in what I&#8217;ve already said to them. I don&#8217;t try to get feedback so I&#8217;m better educated about the price or condition of the home. I&#8217;m an expert and if I need a second opinion, I&#8217;m not going to ask someone who has a motive to not tell me the truth. I get feedback to take to the seller and say &#8216;See, I&#8217;m not the only one that didn&#8217;t think blood red with a rag faux finish is a poor color choice for the bathrooms ceiling and walls.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>Most Brokerage&#039;s business models don&#039;t benefit the Agent</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Barron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve always been interested in sustainable business models and have noticed that there are very few in the real estate industry.  Except for that of the brokerage.  The business model of the brokerage is not the same as that of the agent.  Brokerages make money from agents, agents make their money from [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always been interested in sustainable business models and have noticed that there are very few in the real estate industry.  Except for that of the brokerage.  The business model of the brokerage is not the same as that of the agent.  Brokerages make money from agents, agents make their money from transacting real estate.</p>
<p>Before I made the decision to pursue real estate full time,  I had considered getting into the mortgage business.   What I found was just about anyone would &#8216;hire&#8217; you on as a mortgage broker.  Why?  Because they would provide almost no support for you but take half of what was made on a loan.   They knew that in most cases, a mortgage broker would come on, refinance their friend and family then wash out of the business.  So they attempt to capture a larger share of the market with a networking through expansion method.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help but think many large real estate brokerages are doing the same.  For example,  I recently talked to an agent in a large brokerage who said that they shared an office with less than 20 desks with over 300 agents.  This office represents a small area of Denver, so I would assume that there is alot of overlap between the agents.   Most businesses in sales don&#8217;t have that many agents for a small area.  It wouldn&#8217;t be fair to the salespeople.  They would limit the number of agents so their agents would be as busy as they would like to be while still achieving saturation.  But the truth about real estate is that brokerages make a lot of money off the agents themselves through various fees.  They also know that the new agent will immediately go after their friends and family who might not otherwise use their company.  So on top of the fees, there is perhaps another $10,000 to $20,000 to be made simply by bringing on another agent who may even be paying you to be there.  Of course, most agents won&#8217;t be successful but the brokerage doesn&#8217;t really care.  Most brokerages provide general training and services to make it appear that they want an agent to succeed but the truth is their business model is at odds with that premise.</p>
<p>To establish yourself in real estate requires time.  If you&#8217;ve been in the business long enough, you have made the contacts and have the client base to pull from to sustain yourself.  If you&#8217;re new to the business, you need to build your business in the face of a vast and entrenched competition.  But the brokerages tell you you shouldn&#8217;t drop your commissions.  They then proceed to charge you enough or split the commission in such a way that you agree, &#8220;There&#8217;s no way I could work for less.&#8221;  There is no way that these agents that have no momentum will ever gain a foothold against the entrenched agents who are actively marketing in a neighborhood.  So the new agents are left to help their friends and family (assuming there are not more agents in the family) then slowly fade away, back into the careers they came from.</p>
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		<title>Why I can&#039;t justify high real estate commissions.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 09:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Barron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I read this, I had to laugh. I&#8217;m always interested in how agents try to justify their commissions. This one&#8217;s pretty funny.
The settlement sheet shows that I&#8217;m going to receive ___% of the sale price of the home. But I don&#8217;t get to KEEP all of that. I take out a dollar bill and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I read this, I had to laugh. I&#8217;m always interested in how agents try to justify their commissions. This one&#8217;s pretty funny.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The settlement sheet shows that I&#8217;m going to receive ___% of the sale price of the home. But I don&#8217;t get to KEEP all of that. <strong>I take out a dollar bill</strong> and hold it up as a visual example. If another agent listed/sold the home, I have to split my money in half with them. <strong>RII-IIIIIP!</strong> <u>(Ripping money, even just a dollar, gets people&#8217;s attention.)</u> Then there&#8217;s my split with my broker (riiip!), my franchise fee (riiip!), my split with my partner, my E&#038;O insurance, Uncle Sam&#8217;s portion, and all the money that I put in up front in gas, marketing and so on. Gentle reminder: my job does not have insurance or a 401K, so for those I&#8217;m on my own. We end our discussion looking at my little confetti pile and the tiny scrap of dollar that I&#8217;m still holding. It&#8217;s very small, if I&#8217;m lucky about the size of a postage stamp, but usually less than that. <strong>I do not earn what the public thinks I earn.</strong> Educating my clients keeps them from feeling rippped off at the successful end of our quest, more likely (I hope!) to use me again or refer me to friends and family. </em><a title="Defending my commissions" href="http://activerain.com/blogsview/40267/How-I-Defend-My"><em>A quote from Sarah Cooper&#8217;s Blog</em></a></p></blockquote>
<p>Here&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t think you can justify high commissions selling a home in Denver. (and probably just about anywhere with a good MLS)</p>
<p>1. Nobody cares. All businesses have costs and overhead. There are thousands of people out there who are self-employed in the same position as a Realtor is. You don&#8217;t see them tearing up money just to make a point. Most business owners manage business costs closely. Realtors, as a whole, do not.<br />
2. As home values go up, so do commissions. 10 years ago in most parts of Denver, the cost of a home may have been $150,000. Your commission at 6%? $9000. Today, it still takes the same amount of work to sell the same home. Home value? $350,000. Today&#8217;s commission, $21,000. Even after splits and co-ops this is a lot for the amount of work that&#8217;s involved. Even after calculating in cost of living adjustments, you&#8217;re still in pretty good shape.</p>
<p>3. It&#8217;s easier than ever to sell a home. Especially for a listing agent. When you look back at the time spent it&#8217;s typically much less than that spent with buyers. Denver has a very cooperative MLS. If you offer a co-op, all those agents out there spending money to find buyers will come with their buyers to the house. In the end, 80% of homes on the MLS sell with the help a a buyer&#8217;s agent.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pretty short-sighted to gouge consumers for more than you need to in order to make a good living. I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s not expensive to be a Realtor. There is definitely a point where you can&#8217;t go any lower without operating at a loss or cutting service. Most discounters go straight to cutting service. That&#8217;s why not all discount agents are successful. They believe that they really are worth those high commissions so they cut their services proportionate to their fees. Bad idea. Work a little harder for a change.</p>
<p>I like being busy. I sell homes for less because it makes me more money. That may seem funny to other Realtors but not to the rest of the world. If I offer the same service for less, who do you think they&#8217;re going to go with? It&#8217;s amazing how easy it is to get listings when you are telling people what they already believe. Just wait until they tell their friends.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Barron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[What should be in a comparative market analysis (CMA)?  A CMA shouldn&#8217;t be just a list of solds or actives.  It should reflect the current conditions of the market.  I was recently asked how long I felt a CMA was accurate and personally, in this market, I don&#8217;t think I would want [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What should be in a comparative market analysis (CMA)?  A CMA shouldn&#8217;t be just a list of solds or actives.  It should reflect the current conditions of the market.  I was recently asked how long I felt a CMA was accurate and personally, in this market, I don&#8217;t think I would want to blindly price a home off a CMA I completed even two months ago.  In most cases, my paranoia leads me to double-check solds and similar active listings even an hour before driving over to take a listing.  There is a huge disparity in home pricing mainly because brokers use a wide range of largely ineffective models to determine pricing.</p>
<p><strong>What I would look for in a Comparative Market Analysis (CMA).</strong></p>
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<li><strong>New Sold Comps</strong> &#8211; This one is obvious but probably one of the most overrated when it comes to pricing.  I don&#8217;t think this is the most important factor in pricing, but it&#8217;s important because once buyers have found that they liked your home more than the competition, this is where they will look to see if you&#8217;re worth it.  You don&#8217;t have to be priced less if you can justify it, but both the initial offer and the appraisal will be based on this.  Because of this, and to make sure you will appeal to the buyers in the market, you need to be priced in the ballpark that your buyer is looking in.  Be prepared with a list of sold comparable homes and a justification of the price based on the homes&#8217; differences.   Sold data will likely not show a significant change over a short time frame and usually one low or high sale isn&#8217;t enough to support pricing.</li>
<li><strong>New Competition -</strong> How many similar homes are you competing against?  What does it cost to buy the other home?  How do you compare to what is currently for sale?  Lots of competition? It can have a huge effect on time on market and how much you&#8217;ll get for your home.  If another seller comes on the market and prices below your home it will reduce your ability to compete at a higher price.  Unless, of course, your home is truly different in a substantial way, this is not very likely when your home was a new construction home in a subdivision full of homes just like yours.   How you compare to other homes that your potential buyers will be looking at is the most important factor in determining price.</li>
<li><strong>Changing Absorption rates -</strong> This is a measure of how long the current inventory would take to sell if no new homes were added to the mix.  Demand varies seasonally and as the result of the weather (super obvious) and the school year, as well as economic pressures and even poor media coverage of the market.  Supply also varies greatly, peaking in the summer in most cities.   It&#8217;s a great indicator, especially when applied directly to the homes of similar type.</li>
<li><strong>Change in Days on Market before a sale</strong> &#8211;  It&#8217;s also much easier for most people to grasp when compared to other indicators, but it&#8217;s one of those pieces of information that gets abused.   Unfortunately, just because something sells quickly doesn&#8217;t mean it was under-priced.  It could have just been the best home that the buyer was able to get an offer accepted on when they were looking. (see #2)  There are too many variables to use the fast sale of a recently-sold property to support the idea that your home should sell for more.  I find that of the homes that sell quickly, they usually don&#8217;t sell to some new buyer that just wandered by.  Most new listings sell quickly when they are priced right when compared to what&#8217;s available.  Buyers usually look around before they&#8217;re ready to buy.  The homes that sell quickly likely sold to someone who was looking for a while already and recognized that the home was priced appropriately.</li>
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<p>What is most disturbing though is the vast majority of sellers already have a price in their head that they want.  Of course, I&#8217;m usually willing to hear why the seller thinks his home is worth the pie-in-the-sky price.   They are usually trying to compare their home to homes with extra bathrooms, a finished basement, or more square footage.  Even worse, many work backwards from how much they want to walk away from the closing table with or what they owe to arrive at their number.</p>
<p>For me though,  I believe that the CMA&#8217;s should give you a range of what pricing will be acceptable to the market.  It should also indicate where offers are being accepted when compared to the list price and what concessions (if any) are common.  For Denver, as a general rule,  most Denver homes homes sell within 2-3% of their current list price and buyers get less than 1% in concessions.  Most also sell within 10% of their original list price of the current listing period.  That means most homes priced more than 10% higher than what comparable homes would sell for usually end up expiring without a sale.  In case you missed it, <a title="Over priced homes" href="http://www.spencerbarron.com/archives/46">most Denver Homes are overpriced</a> on average of 20% when compared to the average list price of the solds.</p>
<p>In the end, it comes down to the feeling you get walking in the door.  The same feeling the buyer will get.  Look at the competition and know what price can be justified.  That&#8217;s the only way you can nail down the real value.</p>
<p>Also see:  <a title="Sell your home" href="http://www.spencerbarron.com/archives/25">How to sell your home quickly for top dollar.</a></p>
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		<title>Money Magazine &#8211; Buyer&#039;s agents co-ops and how to get a better deal buying or selling a home.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 01:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Barron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about that. I actually got quoted in Money Magazine. Albeit my statement appears a bit truncated, it is not incorrect. I&#8217;m quoted as saying &#8220;People offer higher commissions because it works&#8221;. I&#8217;ll stand by that. Offering a higher commission to a buyer&#8217;s agent does help sell your home. It doesn&#8217;t necessarily help you get [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img id="image56" title="Money Magazine - Is your Realtor on your Side?" style="width: 121px; height: 161px" height="161" alt="Money Magazine - Is your Realtor on your Side?" hspace="10" src="http://www.spencerbarron.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/moneymag_20070201.jpg" width="121" align="left" />How about that. I actually got quoted in <a title="Money Magazine" href="http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/">Money Magazine</a>. Albeit my statement appears a bit truncated, it is not incorrect. I&#8217;m quoted as saying &#8220;People offer higher commissions because it works&#8221;. I&#8217;ll stand by that. Offering a higher commission to a buyer&#8217;s agent does help sell your home. It doesn&#8217;t necessarily help you get a better price but it will get you slightly more traffic. I&#8217;ll explain, but first, this is what I&#8217;m talking about. The February 2007 Article entitled &#8220;Is your Realtor on your Side?&#8221; by <a title="Steve Gandel profile" href="http://www.timeinc.net/fortune/information/presscenter/money/bios/MON_Gandel.html">Stephen Gandel</a> discusses the value of having a buyer&#8217;s agent. More than that, it actually gets into the morality of the strategies some homeowners and builders are using to sell their homes. </p>
<p>Steve&#8217;s seems to be trying to get his fingers on the pulse of real estate but can&#8217;t seem to get past the waiting room. I spoke with Steve on the phone after he wrote an article in the December issue of <a title="Money Magazine" href="http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/">Money Magazine</a>, &#8220;Best Ideas for 2007&#8243;. I had disagreed with him on many of the assertions he had made regarding strategies buyers could use to get a better deal. To be fair, I agreed strongly with his suggestions for sellers. In our conversation, he admitted that he &#8216;doesn&#8217;t have access to the same information that agents have&#8217;. Thus he has to &#8220;rely on other people&#8221; in order to write these real estate articles. He&#8217;s essentially trying to analyze data from hundreds of markets and collate that into advice that could be applicable nationwide.  He&#8217;s not an expert in the sense of personal experience but rather is forced to rely on so-called experts from across the country to give him accurate information regarding the stories he researches in order to make the valuable conclusions. I&#8217;m honored that I can fall into that category. Unfortunately, I disagree with some of the advice in the latest article. It seems the article plays more to what buyers would want to believe rather than the truth about what will help get you a better deal.  But then again,  who knows what agents across the country tell him.  This is how it works in Denver and what I disagreed with&#8230;</p>
<p>(If your not sure what commissions are and how they work, check the end of this post)</p>
<p> <strong>Why would offering more money to a buyers agent work?</strong> Because brokers want to make a living and will be more likely to show your place in among others of the same type. This is often true in the case in newer condos or builder-owned homes where there is often a lot of competition. If you have ten other condos in your building that are essentially the same home at the same price, and then there are lots of other condos in other buildings, most agents want to narrow down what building their client wants before showing them everything that is available in one building. There are literally hundreds of condos that are similar. Do you want to go view all of them or would you like someone to help narrow it down? Most people would like some help here. Well, if I have to pick which one to show first, and they appear all the same, why wouldn&#8217;t I pick the one that pays me better, especially if they&#8217;re are all priced the same? That&#8217;s just good business. </p>
<p><strong>Unfortunately for sellers, this doesn&#8217;t seem to bring them a higher price,</strong> it just gets you more showings and helps to sell your home faster. From all the home sales I analyzed to prepare my information for Steve, I noticed that of the homes that had higher commissions sold slightly faster than homes that didn&#8217;t.  It&#8217;s not obvious when looking at homes offering co-ops slightly higher than the average because often that money is being offered to get brokers to overlook the obvious problems with the home and bring someone by.  While it might not have been as clear in the &#8217;slightly more&#8217; group that higher commissions bring faster sales, it definately becomes clear in the &#8217;slightly less&#8217; group.  When you offer less than the average commission, there is a marked difference in time on market.</p>
<p>I took a look at this and noticed that time on market goes up immediately when offering even slightly less than the average co-op.  <em><strong>Days on market increased by 12% when agents offered less than the average co-op.</strong></em>  This can affect the sale price since a long time on the market is viewed poorly.   <span id="more-57"></span></p>
<p><strong><em>When should you offer less than the average co-op?  </em></strong>I did find situations where offering a below average commission didn&#8217;t hurt your time on market.  It was usually when the properties perceived value was easy to see.  Low priced homes in high interest areas, and other properties that were obviously priced low in order to bring a quick sale.  The seller and listing agent knew that the number of showings would not be necessary since the price &#038; value of the property would sell it quickly.  </p>
<p><strong><em>When should you offer a higher than average co-op?</em></strong></p>
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<li><strong>Too much competition</strong> &#8211; The home has a lot of competition of equal value. Set your home apart somehow. Preferably with some upgrades to the home. If you can&#8217;t do that, attempt to influence the people who set up the showings.</li>
<li><strong>Complications</strong> &#8211; The process of buying the home will be more complicated than a normal purchase. Typical when dealing with banks and corporations.</li>
<li><strong>New construction</strong> &#8211; A bit of both of the above. Some builders have taken to offering ridiculous commissions to buyer&#8217;s agents. Personally, new homes sell themselves because they&#8217;re new. Unfortunately, new homes are often not worth the asking price. Any agent that isn&#8217;t pointing out this truth is not working in his client&#8217;s best interest. Not only does he not deserve his commission, he doesn&#8217;t deserve to have a real estate license.</li>
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<p>Remember though, regardless of what you offer the buyer&#8217;s agent, in most cases it won&#8217;t affect the price you get for your home. If you overprice your home, you won&#8217;t sell it.  Agents don&#8217;t sell homes, the home sells itself. If a buyer walks in and doesn&#8217;t like it, then it doesn&#8217;t sell regardless of what the buyer&#8217;s agent might say.  Agents are there for pricing, marketing, negotiations and coordination.  Sales skills are in there somewhere but you should know that no amount of sales skill will manipulate a &#8216;well educated&#8217; buyer into buying an overpriced property.   </p>
<p>For this reason, I&#8217;ve found,<em><strong> their is no reason to offer a higher than average commission if your home is priced appropriately.</strong></em> If a home isn&#8217;t worth the price you&#8217;re asking, no amount of bribery will help you out. You might get showings but it still isn&#8217;t going to sell. Here&#8217;s the only times you should consider offering a slightly higher co-op to set your home apart to the buyer&#8217;s agent.</p>
<p><strong>Should buyers expect that their agents should give up some of their commission?</strong> That&#8217;s between you and your agent. In most cases, the amount your agent (the buyer&#8217;s agent) is getting paid has been pre-negotiated between the seller and the listing agent. It is independent of your offer in the sense it doesn&#8217;t affect the net to seller and thus doesn&#8217;t improve the price you get the house at.  On the other hand,  their are situations where you have done most of the agents work and can rightly feel he didn&#8217;t earn it.  Whatever the case, if you want to take the money from your buyer&#8217;s agent, remember for that to be legal, it has to happen at the closing and show up on the HUD-1. The lender needs to know.</p>
<p>Lenders have limits with how much the buyer can walk from the table with. Most lenders won&#8217;t let the seller pay 3% of closing costs and your prepaids in addition to your broker giving you a kick-back from his commission. There are limits for both agent&#8217;s commissions and seller concessions that vary for each lender. When it comes to what the seller can walk away with, that depends on the appraisal. All the lender really knows is you&#8217;re willing to attempt to pay back what you put on the contract. It&#8217;s not the seller&#8217;s money, it&#8217;s not the buyer&#8217;s money (yet), it&#8217;s the lender&#8217;s money. To claim otherwise is an over simplification of the truth. There can be no money if there is no house. The house has value and thus a trade has to take place. You could argue this &#8220;<a title="Chicken and egg" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_chicken_or_the_egg">chicken and egg</a>&#8221; causality scenario all day long without being any closer to an agreement.</p>
<p>My advice to buyers:</p>
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<li><strong>Understand how your agent is paid</strong> &#8211; Negotiating your agent down does not always improve your bottom line or the value of your offer to the seller. If your offer can be improved by decreasing how much your agent makes then this should be discussed. In most cases, this involves more than your agent, it also involves the other agent and the seller reaching a mutual agreement.</li>
<li><strong>Agree on how your agent will be paid and get it in writing. </strong>Agree on a maximum they can make on the purchase (expect to have to agree on a minimum as well) or you could agree on a flat fee.</li>
<li><strong>Discuss with your agent how he will handle any bonuses offered</strong>. He should disclose if there is a bonus, especially if it will affect the terms of the offer.</li>
<li><strong>Never go directly to the listing agent.</strong> I&#8217;ve said it before and I&#8217;ll say it again. You probably are going to overpay. Most homes are overpriced by as much as 20%.  Who cares if you get the home for 10% less than the list price by negotiating down the seller and then the sellers agent&#8217;s commission only to find out you still overpaid? I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve seen the murder suspects try to represent themselves instead of having their own attorney. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve also heard of people trying to negotiate their own divorce. I&#8217;m sure you know how successful these methods are.</li>
<li><strong>Do more of the work</strong> &#8211; There are many tools for buyers to help them find a home for themselves. While its not efficient using sites like <a title="Realtor National listings service" href="http://www.realtor.com">Realtor.com</a> or <a title="Denver MLS homse search" href="http://www.recolorado.com">REColorado</a> to find a home, it is possible. Many Agents <a title="Denvermlsonline" href="http://www.denvermlsonline.com/bin/web/real_estate/AR213875/HOME_FINDER/Littleton/1165444591.html">including myself</a> offer tools to help you as well as a discount to clients that do much of the work themselves.  While these tools may help you do more work for yourself, they also cost money. The agents somewhere along the line will want to be compensated.  If you do find a home yourself, it is possible to still have representation and save money. Call a buyer&#8217;s agent and tell them the situation; most would be happy to assist you in exchange for actually working with a real buyer.  Most would give you a significant refund on the price of their services. (Keep in mind 1-3 on this list and my comments on lenders and concessions, they all play a part.)</li>
<li><strong>Don&#8217;t be that guy</strong> &#8211; Trying to work your agent over for every last dime can be counter-productive. Stick to what you agreed upon. You&#8217;ll get what you pay for. Make sure you understand what to expect from your agent. Since different relationships exist as do different levels of service, get it in writing before moving forward.</li>
<li><strong>Educate yourself &#8211; Umm..what&#8217;s a commission and why talk about this?</strong>  Usually, the seller has negotiated a commission with the listing agent that he earns if he sells the home.  The listing agent turns around and offers to split this commission with a buyer&#8217;s agent if they find a buyer.  This widens the net quite a bit and has given rise to the popular MLS systems around the country.  Thus the co-op has come to mean what is being offered to other agents to bring a buyer.  80% of homes listed on the MLS in Denver sell with the buyer having their own agent.  There are no set commissions but there are definately averages that have become acceptable compensation for the work and risk that goes into the business.  These accepted &#8217;standards&#8217; that used to be quite stable and in line with the cost of living have varied greatly in the recent past as more agents and home buyers have taken advantage of the internet to make life easier.  In addition, the housing boom has increased the value of a percentage based commission faster than the cost of living standards than most career choices.  Because of these factors, many different real estate companies are ahead of the learning curve when it comes to the rest of the National Association of Realtors and have been able to offer savings to their clients both when buying and selling a home.</li>
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<p>Other Posts about home buying and commission:</p>
<ul>
<li><a title="Money magazines bad advice" href="http://www.spencerbarron.com/archives/9" target="_blank">Money Magazine &#8211; Bad Advice for buyers</a></li>
<li><a title="Get top dollar selling your home" href="http://www.spencerbarron.com/archives/25">How to sell your home quickly for top dollar</a></li>
<li><a title="First offer on a home" href="http://www.spencerbarron.com/archives/23">Buying a home? Think before making your first offer</a></li>
<li><a title="Denver Homes over priced" href="http://www.spencerbarron.com/archives/46">Most Denver Homes are Over Priced</a></li>
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